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and man. Why doesn't the Bible mention dinosaurs? I know that He never
told us WHEN he actually created adam and eve, but I'm wondering if
there are any more developed theories on this subject.
Yes. The Bible does indeed take the dinosaurs into consideration. They call them as behemoths, leviathan or tannin. The following articles will be good to read so as to have some understanding about the Bible and dinosaurs.
"ARE DINOSAURS IN THE BIBLE?"
http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-where2.html
"Leviathan"
http://www.christiananswers.net/dinosaurs/j-site4.html
"Dinosaurs and the Bible"
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml
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And Almighty God was not
alone while this was going on. Jesus himself, God's very FIRST
creation, was there with him. Proverbs 8; 22-31.
I take to deviate from biblical teaching. In Proverbs 8 are we to assume that there was a time when God did not have wisdom?
However, just in case there is doubt in anyone?s mind, I have never believed that the world was created 6 - 8,000 years; but several billion years ago. Nor do I accept Pugwashjw65?s argument that man has only been around for that period; scientific research tells us that there were men and women like us - possibly arguing about God and creation - tens of thousands of years ago.
Now again I will repeat my problem with Easterangels response.. A question was asked, and the answer given represented only the fringe kook opinion of an answer. It linked to only fringe kook websites, and frankly took an opportunity to educate someone with a sincere Biblical question and planted them firmly back into the middle ages. Its like someone asking "Did the Jews really kill Jesus?" and then answering "yes, absolutely" and then linking to a neo-nazi website where some wacko rants about the Jews as Christ killers ! Or someone asking "Is the Shroud of Turin really the burial cloth of Jesus?" and answering .."Yes, absolutely"..then linking to a fringe kook Christian website as proof.
Its my opinion that any official answer given here should educate the asker to the point that they would be able to take the information given and stand up in a public forum and speak intelligently on the subject. That's the last place I would want to be armed with the information given here. The world of Biblical scholarship and interpretation is not as simple as some would make it out to be, and Easterangel did not have an easy slam dunk question here.. but he/she stepped up to the plate and therefore took on the challange... There is a lot of information to bring to bear when asked a question... Its not easy to answer Biblically based questions, but I feel anyone stepping up to do so has an obligation to do it well.
but hey...its not my $5.00
"The Bible (from Greek (??) ??????, (ta) biblia, "(the) books", plural of ???????, biblion, "book", originally a diminutive of ??????, biblos, which in turn is derived from ???????byblos, meaning "papyrus", from the ancient Phoenician city of Byblos which exported this writing material), is the classical name for the Hebrew Bible ..." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible
The word "book", however, occurs several places in the Bible, as shown on this site: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/b/1144836025-3075.html
I agree with Slakemouth and Geof, also with the latter's suggestion that we not belabor the point further.
The Bible and Science:
Are Dinosaurs Mentioned in the Bible?
http://www.bibleandscience.com/science/dinosaurs.htm
and while you're there look at the "The Bible and Science - How Old is the Earth?" tab as well...
I just wanted to defend my answer.
Skeptics often say that Job must be describing an elephant, but it certainly doesn't sound like an elephant to me. Job was written approximately 4000 years ago.
And Irlandes? just for the record I don?t ?not believe in the Bible?? I have been into biblical history and scholarship for over 10 years.. and have taught biblical history, adult and children?s Sunday school classes for the last 8?. I will say that the Creationist view of both the world and the scriptures is insulting at best, and about as intellectually dishonest as it gets?. And I?m giving you a pass on the Mt St Helens thing?. Cuz now I know you?re pulling my leg?.
Behemoth is a Hebrew word, and the description in the Book of Job is interesting, but nothing says that it has to be that of dinosaur. One of the websites Easterangel posted said that it may have been a Hippopatamus. As we know from drawings on early maps that were based on verbal descriptions, they could be pretty inacurate. We can't take to description too literally; obviously the behemoth did not have bones of bronze. I don't believe the Bible mentions dinosaurs, and have to wonder that those who take the Bible's story of creation literally, believe that dinosaurs actually existed. Everything that suggests that they did also implies that they existed eons before Biblical creation.
I mean really...c'mon
geof-ga.... thanks for saying something.... I just shook my head and walked away..
One thing happened not too long ago, that the scoffers of religion have very conveniently ignored. Have you heard of Mt. St. Helens? While the cameras rolled, geological things happened there in a few months that correspond with what we have always been told took millions of years to happen.
To answer your easy question "One could also question why the bible should bother to mention behemoths/dinosaurs, when there are so many other creatures both existing today and extinct that the bible doesn't mention - eg Australia's kangaroos and other marsupials,and the ptereodactyl." It's obvious that the bible is not capable of specifically mentioning every organism on the earth by name. The writers mentioned some and not others, just like every piece of literature you've ever read **notice the writer was not in Australia to see the kangaroos or marsupials... he wrote about what he saw.
And your more realistic question (that is very valid) "I would ask them when and how dinosaurs disappeared from the earth" To answer this, I'll simply state that no one recorded the history that long ago so I doubt we'll ever find proof of what caused their demise... whether it was 1 billion years ago or 6000 years ago. But it is very clear that the earth has gone through severe climate and other changes through history. If you want to believe that the earth is really old and I want to believe it is very young... the same changes have occured either way. So any theory for what happened to the dinos that you can come up with, apply it to 6000 years ago and see if the story could potentially make sense.
myoarin- You are right that the bible is not completely literal, but the author was clearly writing the best words he had to describe what he saw... The bones are not bronze of course, but the bones are obviously sturdy enough to carry the enourmous creature. The tail is not a cedar, but it is long and sturdy like a cedar. I know of no living creature today that has a tail anything like a cedar. Perhaps the Behemoth was not a dinosaur, but it sounds much more like a dino than a hippo.
Here is a great site from 1 very respected Christian viewpoint with many articles backed up by much scientific study. It's a great reading from either side of the debate (know a supporting arguement or your opponents arguement): http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dinosaurs.asp
If you toss off a belief as unscientific simply because it argues with something you believe then you are only fooling yourself and you're afraid of opposing viewpoints.
Frankly, you're spouting out "ideas" like a bad politician (perhaps a successful politician)... you say that the creationist viewpoint is horrible and should't be considered but you give no evidence. What you have also failed to do is bring up any point of your own. You have given no answer to the question, only attempted to shoot down other ideas without any evidence why.
What I did have an issue with is how you said that EasterAngel did an unsatisfactory job answering the question when she answered exactly what was asked. Then you continued to shoot down my ideas without giving any ideas of your own. It's fine to give arguements against ideas (I think that spurs growth in knowledge) but to simply dismiss an idea as you did without giving any supporting evidence shows a lack of thought and takes away from a learning environment.
Instead of trying to transform the bible's references to behemoths into dinosaurs,I would have thought it easier for creationists, to simply maintain that god created fossils along with everything else that wasn't mentioned in the bible and we now know about.
"Nor do I accept easterangel's justification for his "answer" to the
original question. Lydit123 asked, inter alia, "Why doesn't the bible
mention dinosaurs?"
People in the Bible may have different terms for animals, things and concepts due to the diparity in language and even time.
It doesn't mean that if the Bible doesn't mention dinosaurs that it is absent from it. The word "Bible" isn't even mentioned in the whole Bible but we know the concept.
My answer referenced what biblical scholars think about the issue and how they defend it. If we say that there are no ideas whatsoever about dinosaurs then that wouldn't be truthul would it?
and Since you asked, here is a link to a true scientific website addressing all the outrageous claims of Biblical Creationism... It is the "Index to Creationist Claims" at the Talk origins site.. you can scroll down to "Young Earth Creationism" and click on any topics that interest you, or better yet read them all.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CH
Here is a direct link to an article dealing with the Creationsit claim of dinosaur blood being found ( one of the topics you linked to at Answers in Genesis) http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/blood.html
"How old is the Earth and how do we know?"
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
and here is the main Index.... browse until your hearts content..
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-index.html
this is just one website... there are lots more where that comes from...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Henry_Gosse
Now as to this question, the customer asks how dinosaurs fit into the Bible. Links to explanations showing "HOW DINOSAURS FIT" was given. The asker wasn't asking for anything beyond this concept.
Specific question was asked and a specific answer was given. Nothing more and nothing less.
Yet their insistence is on trouble and hurtful things;
For it must quickly pass by, and away we fly".
If a chart is made showing the years of the patriarchs and with the overlapping lifespans, it will be seen that Methuselah outlived his own son Lamech by only four years. The overall total of man's existence on earth amounts to only about 8,000 years. And Genesis 1;20-24 states that all the animals were created BEFORE man. Dinosaurs DID exist, and were also created, for the purpose of preparing the earth we know FOR mankind. The 'days' of creation are not 'literal' 24 hour days, but with God's power, could be. And Almighty God was not alone while this was going on. Jesus himself, God's very FIRST creation, was there with him. Proverbs 8; 22-31. In opposition to what GEOF states, creation started a long time before 6,000 years ago. The 6-8,000 years applies only to man.
Nor do I accept easterangel's justification for his "answer" to the original question. Lydit123 asked, inter alia, "Why doesn't the bible mention dinosaurs?" For the vast majority of the people in the world the answer to that question is simply "Because dinosaurs weren't known about when the bible was written." If to be fair-minded, easterangel had then gone on to say that some Christians did think that the bible mentioned dinosaurs in the guise of behemoths etc, OK. But to launch right in and answer the question from this creationist point of view, seems very dubious.
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